tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4759249121599559694.post6314586223311530038..comments2023-09-27T07:19:44.224-07:00Comments on Bathbytes: Are we losing the respect for the Referee?bathbyteshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03779182671902904467noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4759249121599559694.post-32808738171083030372013-03-02T07:32:26.215-08:002013-03-02T07:32:26.215-08:00That is a sign of my concerns! It is almost at tim...That is a sign of my concerns! It is almost at times as the football mentality is creeping in to the game, with a win at all cost opinion which is in danger of ruining the game. respect is one thing that is integral to the game and makes the sport what it is!bathbyteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03779182671902904467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4759249121599559694.post-40526528093757472562013-03-02T04:06:53.647-08:002013-03-02T04:06:53.647-08:00Last wednesday I officiated at a public schools se...Last wednesday I officiated at a public schools sevens. at the first scrum I said to the scrum half "want the ball in the middle not fed". He replied " yeh yeh yeh yeh yeh". I gave him the evil eye warning and he proceeded to feed the ball, i blew for a free kick,and he said " what the f##k" he then seemed amazed when he received a yellow card.<br />Previously at the same school I've spoken to the coach about his star player who gave penalties away by cheating and he replied that that's the way he has coached him. (He was South African)MickAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15262695044216271554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4759249121599559694.post-38666398638938395072013-02-26T14:17:37.618-08:002013-02-26T14:17:37.618-08:00Nice Article, like Ref I am a referee and agree wi...Nice Article, like Ref I am a referee and agree with what he has said. I too agree at times there is too much discussion player talk should be a simple clarification that can be replied in one or two words, further questions are better discussed between the referee and player after the game as not to slow the game.<br /><br />With regard to your comment "they should become fairly scrutinised and face their own sanctions" this is definitely the case, all games that are filmed and many that are not are assessed and scrutinised. There are sanctions for a referee not performing just as there are for a player not performing. In addition all referees at this level are required to perform self evaluations of games, after watch the video if possible and are often well aware of mistakes they have made in the game.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10064883163941750564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4759249121599559694.post-6313800100813852692013-02-25T06:29:31.462-08:002013-02-25T06:29:31.462-08:00Thank you for your feed back! It's good to get...Thank you for your feed back! It's good to get a response from a ref to give their point of view. As spectators we can only imagine what is like in the middle of the park. David rose wasn't the official in mention it was Luke Pearse at the Saints v Bath fixture, who in my opinion and of many others didn't have a particularly good game, but again that is only my interpretation. I hav always believed the respect shown to officials to be the most endearing factor of rugby and separates the sport from others, it's a tough job and takes a big man to fill those boots. I tried to cover both sides of the argument to entice debate, thanks for you input much appreciated!bathbyteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03779182671902904467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4759249121599559694.post-38468826221888440812013-02-25T05:29:38.044-08:002013-02-25T05:29:38.044-08:00Ooo, was with you right until the examples you han...Ooo, was with you right until the examples you handed out in the penultimate para: <br /><br />I agree, that sometimes we officials don't do ourselves any favours - not straight at the scrum put in for example. But, in order: <br /><br />- refs just aren't influenced by a crowd. As a ref in the middle, you just hear noise, not what is being said. Heaven forbid, the crowd is occasionally correct, so it seems like that may be true. There's no way round that! Silent crowds perhaps? ;-)<br />- TMO and PT: Law saws probable. Had he not been tripped, he probably could have scored. Not definitely. And when some say harsh, others say it was a good decision. It's subjective. <br />-Inexperienced official. David Rose is one of the most experienced referees in the Premiership. <br />- "Repeatedly penalised the team moving forward" - just because they are going forward, doesnt mean it was legally done so. We often get asked "Why would they?" The answer: because they can, and if they get away with it, the pen goes the opposite way.<br />- Not retreating yellow card - in professional rugby, they shouldn't need a warning. They know what they're doing and deserve the consequences. <br /><br />So not basic errors at all. They are mainly points of subjectivity which can be argued either way. <br /><br />A few things go amiss when it comes to talking about referees. Mainly, the law isn't always clear, and gives referees leeway to manage as they see fit. All this leeway and (lack of) clarity will always give rugby fans something to either praise or criticise depending on which side of a result or decision you end up on. <br /><br />To me, good natured discussions are one thing, the abuse that is creeping in is another. All sides need to accept some of the above, rather than just rant away and assume the ref is always wrong. <br /><br />If we get over that as a mindset, then the old fundamentals you start off by rightly discussing can carry on way into the future. We know we aren't always right, but as is evident, officials have no public voice to put views across. It's a shame and I hope the authorities consider some way of making this happen. Refhttp://refblog.co.uknoreply@blogger.com